This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. Thank you for joining us today. We are thrilled to be back together after our respective spring breaks and there is a lot to catch up on.

So that's what we're going to do today.

We're going to talk about the trial of Donald Trump. We're going to talk about the death of O.J. Simpson and Iran's attack on Israel over the weekend.

Plus stick around because at the end of the episode we finally have our long-awaited conversation

about Beyoncé's new album,

Cowboy Carter.

Before we get started, did you think that we were done with book clubs?

You wouldn't be wrong, we are not?

We are a book club people here.

Sarah is especially a book club person because she insisted and I agreed to do a slow read-along of Alexis to Tocville's classic democracy in America and we are in the midst of that right now.

Yeah, I mean to best eternal credit I was like how about another book club?

She was not like she was not like get a grip crazy lady we have enough book clubs.

But listen I have wanted to read Alexis de Tockefell's

Classic Democracy in America for so long.

So let's just talk about it for a minute,

because I'm a political science major and I just assume

everybody knows what I'm talking about but picture it Beth. You're a 26 year old

Frenchman. You're an aristocrat. Your parents were jailed during the reign of terror in the French

Revolution. But you're also a political theorist and the French bourgeoisie have returned to power under the rule of Louis Philippe in 1830 and you're like,

well what, what is going on with this whole democracy thing in France?

Maybe I should take my wife who is also a researcher and we'll go to

America. We'll see how it's going over there. We'll go check out America in

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