Hi, Connor.

Hey, Bob.

How you doing?

Can't complain.

We should be polite and introduce ourselves.

I'm Robert Wright, publisher and editor inin-chief of the non-zero newsletter.

Your Connor Eccles, managing editor of the non-zero newsletter.

This is the non-zero podcast, or strictly speaking, this is Non-Zero World.

The weekend edition of the Non-Zero podcast, which has some overlap substantively with the weekend edition of the

non-zero newsletter, which is called The Earthling. And non-zero world is in a period of transition.

Its identity is morphine as a result of recent personnel changes.

And I think you'll agree with me that we're going to do something radical with it

that is going to rock the very foundations of the podcast industry.

Do you think that's going too far?

I'd like to think that we will rock the very foundations of perhaps the whole country.

I mean, you might be able to actually hear it when it happens. Yeah. I mean, yeah, no, there's a real chance that. But I'm just kind of an under-promise, over-deliver kind of guy. So I just thought I would say we're going to rock the foundations of the podcast industry and leave it at that for now. Yeah, I think that's ambitious enough enough, but you know, we don't want to have

listeners think that we're kind of shooting for a middle ground, right? We need to be, we need to be

going all the way. You think it sounds a little too, yeah. I see your point. I see your point.

Yeah, okay. Total world dominance. So, what are we going to talk about?

We're going to talk about the art.

Now, we should say, you know, you are in, what is it, week four of this six week

period during which I'm spending an inordinate amount of time, or an unusual amount of time trying to finish a book.

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