Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast featuring Kate Riga.

A little show note, we want to start with starting next week.

We are rebranding the show, and part of that rebranding, we are going to have a new name for the show.

It's going to be the TPM show with Kate and Josh.

But now, we're going to get the TPM show with Kate and Josh. But now we're going to get

right into some breaking news from last night. This time of year, we have a constant run of

special elections and primaries and so forth. Kate, what happened last night, I guess starting in

Indiana and if there are any other races of consequence, we should discuss.

Yeah. I don't know how it landed with you, but I found the Indiana results to be pretty sobering, disheartening. Basically, there were seven of these state senators who had held firm

against Trump and J.D. Vance's, you know, pressure

campaign to get them to redistrict and said, no, we don't want to do that. You know, that's not the

will of the voters, et cetera. Five of them lost to Trump backed primary opponents. One of them

won and one of them. It's still too close to call.

So, I mean, on the one hand, you have this being a warning, right, to Republicans and all the other

red states that if you resist the gerrymandering pressure, you will be chased out of

your seat. And then on the other hand, it's this dynamic that's been going on since Trump won,

which is with every kind of iteration of the party under Trump, more and more of anyone who could be considered, you know,

kind of a moderate or at least an old school Republican just gets washed out of the party.

So with each election cycle, we're left with a more fascistic, right-wing, kind of extrem extremist party because all of the milder elements are just

being expunged, you know? And so this is another example of it. Not that the Indiana State House

was like a bastion of temperance or anything. But now, you know, these seven people, at least five,

maybe six of them, who had the kind of courage to stand up to Trump and a sense of moderation

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