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Trump’s Plans for the Midterms

Velshi

MS NOW, Ali Velshi

Politics, News, News Commentary, Ms Now, Versant Media, Versant, Ali Velshi, Government, Weekend News

4.7793 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Chairman & President of Media Matters for America Angelo Carusone; Vice President for Democracy at Brennan Center for Justice at NYU Law School Wendy Weiser; Chief Business Editor of People Inc. Caleb Silver; author of ‘Kin’ Tayari Jones

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0:00.0

Good morning. It is Saturday, March the 21st. I'm Ali Velshi. In August of 2014, a man named Wayne Fish went to a divisions of vehicle's office in Lawrence, Kansas, to renew his driver's license. And while he was there, he availed himself

0:21.3

of the opportunity to register to vote. He left the vehicle's office that day, believing he had,

0:26.5

in fact, registered to vote, but he had not. The Department of Vehicles did not inform him that

0:32.2

Kansas had recently passed a law which required documentary proof of citizenship in order to register to vote.

0:39.2

So Fish got a letter in the mail saying that his registration application was incomplete

0:42.8

and he had to provide proof of citizenship, which is way harder than it might seem in a

0:48.8

country in which there are absolutely zero other reasons to ever need documentary proof of your citizenship.

0:56.1

Couldn't find his birth certificate.

0:57.9

When he attempted to replace his birth certificate from his place of birth, as he wasn't born in Kansas,

1:03.0

he ran into another problem.

1:04.8

He was born on what was by then a decommissioned Air Force base in Illinois.

1:10.0

So two years and an entire election cycle later,

1:13.4

Fish finally found his birth certificate and a safe that belonged to his late mother. The Secretary

1:19.5

of State in Kansas at the time, Chris Kobach had championed a law that would require people

1:23.6

who register to vote to provide documentary proof of citizenship. Now, again, I just want to

1:29.0

remind you, I travel a ton. You have to have a passport if you travel. If you don't travel a ton,

1:34.6

there's virtually no reason to ever need these documents. So the things, Kansas, the court was called

1:40.2

the Safe Act, the Secure and Fair Election act. I love the way they name these things.

1:45.8

And in its brief lifespan before a judge threw it out in 2018, it prevented 30,000 Kansans

1:52.8

from registering to vote. You want to guess? By the way, that 30,000 included Wayne Fish,

1:59.1

because he was one of the plaintiffs in the suit that got the law overturned. But of those 30,000, how many you think were non-citizens? According to the judge's ruling, the Kansas Secretary of State's office presented a spreadsheet. These are the people who made the law. They presented a spreadsheet of all the names of the non-citizens who attempted to register to vote between 2013 and 2016.

2:19.5

Take a guess. Come on. Take a guess. How many names are on that spreadsheet?

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