This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. The show you're about to hear isn't the one we'd planned for

today. So let me take a moment to explain. We intended to broadcast the interview I recorded yesterday

about the recruiting crisis in the military and how Trump blamed it on the military's DEI programs,

which is the subject of Dexter Filkin's latest article in the New Yorker.

In that interview with Filkins, we also talked about how the Middle East was being reshaped

by the Israel-Hamas war and the overthrow of Syria's dictator, Bashar al-Assad.

But last night, at a joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, Trump proposed a shocking way he'd like to reshape the region.

His idea is for all the Palestinians to leave Gaza, get Jordan and Egypt to take them in, while the U.S. takes ownership of Gaza and rebuilds it.

He didn't rule out sending U.S. troops into Gaza. We brought up to the U.S. takes ownership of Gaza and rebuilds it. He didn't rule out sending U.S.

troops into Gaza. We brought back Filkins this morning to talk about Trump's proposal.

In the second half of today's show, we'll hear the interview we recorded yesterday morning about the shortage of recruits in the U.S. military and how that's leaving us vulnerable.

Filkins is a staff writer for The New Yorker.

He has been reporting on Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Middle East for decades,

and is the author of the bestseller The Forever War.

Let's start with a clip from last night's press conference

when CNN's Caitlin Collins posed this question to

Trump. Just a follow up on what you were saying about the Gazans leaving Gaza, going to other

countries. One, where exactly are you suggesting that they should go? And two, are you saying they

should return after it's rebuilt? And if not, who do you envision living there?

I envision a world, people living there, the world's people. I think you'll make that into an

international, unbelievable place. I think the potential and the Gaza Strip is unbelievable.

And I think the entire world, representatives from all over the world will be there

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