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The Playbook Podcast

Trump’s new world order

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

President Donald Trump has shaken up the way that America interacts with the rest of the world in nearly every way since he returned to office earlier this year. It’s a reality that is only becoming more apparent as Trump continues to navigate efforts to secure peace in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Longstanding alliances with Europe have taken precedent in the past, but that appears to no longer be the case. So what does this mean for the futures of Russia, Ukraine and U.S.-European relations? Playbook’s Jack Blanchard and White House reporter Megan Messerly dig in.

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0:00.0

Today on the Playbook podcast, President Zelensky delivers his latest version of a peace plan to Donald Trump.

0:11.4

How will the president respond?

0:13.6

There's a big vote in Congress about those Obamacare subsidies happening.

0:17.1

And keep your eyes on Indiana, where Republicans will decide whether to change

0:21.8

the congressional map this afternoon. Hello, I'm Jack Blanchard. And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Thursday,

0:28.0

December 11th. Megan, we've had you all week. This is great. Thanks so much for joining.

0:34.2

Oh, of course. It's always a joy to be here for the whole week. That's what

0:38.5

we like to see. See people who love getting up early and talking to Playbook. Always,

0:42.8

very much appreciated. I couldn't think of anything better to do with my morning. I'll take that

0:47.9

as a compliment. I'll take that as a compliment. Here's what I want to talk about,

0:51.0

Donald Trump essentially reshaping the rules of American diplomacy around

0:56.4

the world, the rules of American aggression around the world, the rules of American peace

1:01.3

and war around the world.

1:03.0

We've been sort of talking about this ever since Dasha's conversation with the president

1:06.8

on Monday and the things he said about European leaders, about NATO allies and about Ukraine,

1:11.9

which really kicked off a very lively conversation that's been happening all around the globe.

1:16.4

And it feels like things are moving very quickly on a number of fronts here.

1:20.5

And if you take a step back, you can just see Donald Trump resetting everything that we thought

1:27.0

we knew about how America interacted with the world.

1:29.5

You know, we're getting to the end of the year now, and it's the sort of time when we take a step back and think about what happened in 2025.

1:36.4

In his approach to Western Europe, his approach to Russia, his approach to Latin America, his approach to war, to peace, refugees, everything that we've seen from America

1:45.5

is being torn up under Trump 2.0. And I thought it would be interesting just to pick through

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