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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trump's Losing Streak

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Should a president have unchecked authority to impose tariffs on foreign nations? In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the Court of International Trade’s unanimous ruling that President Trump exceeded his authority by invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to impose sweeping tariffs. Also on the Insider docket: – Harvard University’s ongoing legal battle against the Trump administration over its efforts to ban international students from attending the school; and – A federal judge’s ruling that struck down Trump’s executive order targeting Preet’s law firm, WilmerHale. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here. Joyce Vance and I are back with a new episode of The Insider podcast.

0:07.8

First, we discussed the federal hate crime charge brought against the man accused of throwing

0:11.9

Molotov cocktails at people attending a rally in Colorado in support of Israeli hostages.

0:18.0

Next, a trade court's unanimous ruling that some of President Trump's tariffs exceeded

0:22.5

his authority. Then the ongoing legal battle over the Trump administration's efforts to block

0:27.5

Harvard from enrolling international students. And finally, a federal judge's opinion striking down

0:33.4

the executive order targeting Preet's law firm, Wilmer Hale. If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:46.2

Stay tuned, listeners. Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation. Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.

0:56.5

We are living in unreasonable times. Join our community of reasonable minds. Head to cafe.com

1:04.2

slash insider or stay tuned.substack.com. Now on to the show.

1:14.4

Trump. tuned.substack.com. Now on to the show. Trump and the administration want as much power as they can possibly have, even though they

1:20.6

have pre-sweeping power in the executive branch and in the form and position of the commander

1:26.6

and chief president of the United States.

1:28.8

And one of the places that they seek power is in any statute that has some aspect or

1:36.3

provision for purposes of helping the country in an emergency or in a crisis, they seem to be very, very hip and quick to say,

1:48.3

well, we've got a crisis, we've got an emergency, and therefore we have the break last moment,

1:53.5

and these extraordinary powers that are not generally available to a president,

1:58.1

and that Congress has not generally given to the president, we have and

2:03.2

we're going to exercise because everything is an emergency, right? We saw that in the Alien Enemies

2:08.1

Act and the question of whether or not people who are here from Venezuela or members of gangs,

2:13.9

is that an invasion that is being orchestrated by a foreign government or is it a predatory

2:20.2

incursion because if that's so then you get to do some stuff that's extra and different and more

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