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Stay Tuned with Preet

Our Love-Hate Relationship with Billionaires (with Evan Osnos)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

There are less than 1,000 billionaires in the U.S. Why do they matter so much? New Yorker staff writer Evan Osnos joins Preet to discuss his new book, “The Haves and Have-Yachts,” which paints a broad portrait of the lives of the ultrarich, the state of American oligarchy, and the dire wealth disparity in this country.  Plus, Preet answers questions about the fake video showing Trump hitting Bruce Springsteen with a golf ball, and whether you can protest policies by not paying your taxes.  Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at [email protected], or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:06.1

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:08.3

Part of the political answer here is not necessarily that the solution is not to talk about wealth as a target.

0:14.4

It's to talk about unfairness and corruption and self-dealing.

0:18.0

An oligarchy as an idea.

0:25.9

Thank you. and self-dealing. An oligarchy as an idea. That's Evan Osnos. He's been a staff writer at The New Yorker since 2008, and is known for

0:31.5

his incisive reporting on politics and foreign affairs. For the last decade, he's found himself

0:37.2

interested in something more specific,

0:39.3

wealth. He's out with a new book. It's called The Haves and the Have Yachts, which paints a broad

0:45.1

portrait of the lives of the ultra-rich, the state of American oligarchy, and the direness of wealth

0:50.5

disparity in this country. Evan joins me this week to talk about the extremely wealthy,

0:55.5

how they live, how they think, and what to do about Americans' bizarre and seemingly contradictory

1:00.5

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