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Hey everybody, it's Joe Trippie, and welcome back to that Trippie show with my co-host, Alex Sashlow.

This week, we're still talking about Epstein.

I think that's a good thing.

I actually think the whole thing is a really good way to understand how Trump world works, what they're afraid of, and why they talk

about, what they talk about.

Let's dig into that.

With everything else going on, why is this such a big deal?

Alex, where should we get started, my friend?

Yeah, today's an Epstein day, guys.

I'm just going to lay that out at the top.

But the point is, Joe, we haven't really gotten

into the why around just how pervasive this thing is. It's been in the news for like weeks now.

And like you said, I think it really gives us a way into the inner workings of Trump world

in a way. And I would just say this to start off. Trump is actually not that hard to understand.

I get a lot of questions from friends, family, colleagues, like, why did Trump do X? Why did Trump do Y? He's not that hard to understand, as you all know. There's a calculus here. It's really simple. Is it good for Trump? Yes or no. And if it's good for Trump, he's going to do it. If it's not good for Trump,

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