Hello from Washington. I'm Chuck Todd, cast. It is now Wednesday morning, which it really means it's just after midnight on Tuesday post debate I got a terrific interview coming up with the assistant

attorney general Jonathan Canner, he's head of the

Department of Justice's antitrust division. We go deep on this idea of trying to

go after Google, go after Apple, go after these big companies, and the question of whether

they're essentially charging that they're using monopolistic practices and it's an important debate it's an

important conversation and I really think you're gonna enjoy Mr.

canner on this he is this is this is not going to be some boring symposium on antitrust law I

promise you that but look we are now about an hour after the first and perhaps only debate between Donald Trump and

Kamala Harris.

And look, my initial reaction was just how familiar this all felt.

And what do I mean by that?

In many ways, Tuesday's debate was so familiar

because, like, our politics for the last nine years,

the debate revolved around one person, Donald Trump. If you

came down from Mars and you were asked to pick which one was the incumbent president and which

one was the challenger. You'd probably say

Kamil Harris was the challenger and Trump was the incumbent. And if that was the

Harris goal and I think it was, which is make sure this debate is about

Donald Trump and not Kamala Harris well then she won and as far as sort of

tactically I think it's not even a close call because by any conventional measure you talk to

any political strategists left or right I talked to a bunch of them during this debate

be a text post debate and they all agree.

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