Trump’s Insurrection Claims Could Lead American Democracy Off a Cliff
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🗓️ 11 October 2025
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Troops on America's streets, threats of “plenary powers”, and extrajudicial killings in the Caribbean have prompted members of the military past and present to say that we are in the biggest civil/military crisis since the Civil War. On this week's Amicus, how SCOTUS' immunity decision in Trump v. United States helped deliver us to this scary moment. Dahlia Lithwick speaks to Yale Law School military justice expert Eugene Fidell and former JAG Maj. General Steven J. Lepper about the impossible position the military's been put in by Trump and SCOTUS and how bad that is for all of us. The Crisis in Uniform: The Danger of Presidential Immunity for the U.S. Military.
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| 1:13.5 | You've called the district judge's ruling blocking the deployment of National Guard and Oregon |
| 1:18.3 | legal insurrection. Does the administration still plan to abide by that ruling? |
| 1:26.1 | Well, the administration filed an appeal this morning with the Ninth Circuit. |
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