Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - Introducing: When We All Get to Heaven
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🗓️ 10 October 2025
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Summary
When We All Get to Heaven tells the story of one of the first LGBTQ-positive churches, the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco (MCC-SF), and how it faced the personal, social, and political trials of the AIDS epidemic, including the deaths of hundreds of its members. This 10-episode series uses historical tapes rescued from the church to bring listeners into the heart of a community struggling to live while struggling with faith. The first two episodes are available here at Outward on October 15.
This show is produced by Eureka Street Productions. Our theme song, “When We All Get to Heaven,” was written by Eliza Hewitt and performed by MCC-SF’s congregation and choir.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Christina Cauterucci, and you're listening to Outward, Slate's show about queer life, culture, and politics. |
| 0:07.6 | We've been away for a little while, but we're back next week with a new project that we're really excited about. |
| 0:14.2 | It's a narrative series called When We All Get to Heaven, the story of the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco, one of the first gay positive churches. |
| 0:23.6 | But this isn't just any podcast series. |
| 0:26.2 | It's a story told through music, church sermons, and a treasure trove of archival tapes rescued from the trash. |
| 0:34.2 | It's made by the team at Eureka Street Productions, and it's unlike anything we've done |
| 0:38.1 | before at Slate. We're so excited for you to hear it. Here's a sneak peek. Come back next week for the |
| 0:44.3 | first two episodes, plus a conversation with me, Brian Louder, and the show's host, Lynn Gerber. |
| 0:49.7 | You won't want to miss it. If you were wandering around the Castro, San Francisco's gay neighborhood, |
| 0:56.0 | on a Sunday evening in the 80s or the 90s, you might have come across a pink and purple church |
| 1:01.2 | squeezed between two houses. Not where you'd expect a hopping church scene. But the metropolitan |
| 1:07.2 | community church was different. What a bright, shiny, unapologetically gay place to be. |
| 1:14.3 | We were really trying to address what just Christianity look like. |
| 1:17.9 | If your starting point is, sexuality is good. |
| 1:21.4 | You'd also notice a lot of men in the Castro sick with AIDS. |
| 1:24.9 | We were going to memorial services. |
| 1:28.1 | It seemed like every other week. |
| 1:30.6 | In 1987, this church started recording its services for people who were too sick to attend. |
| 1:37.1 | When we all get to heaven uses these recordings to tell the story of this queer church |
| 1:41.8 | and how it made meaning from AIDS. |
| 1:44.3 | You can find new episodes on Slate's podcast Outward. |
| 1:47.6 | Follow Outward now to listen. |
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