Donald Trump is a convicted felon. It took a jury of 12 just two days to find the former president guilty on all 34 counts of

falsifying business records brought against him by the Manhattan District

Attorney Alvin Bragg. To help us understand the verdict, I convened Kyle Cheney, senior legal affairs reporter, and

Ankhush Carduri, senior staff writer and columnist for Political magazine, who along

with the entire Political legal affairs team have provided

a superlative coverage of this trial from the very beginning. I'm Ryan Liza

and this is Playbook Deep Dive. All right, so Kyle, you were inside the courtroom today.

Let's start with you and just set the scene for us as the jury entered the room to deliver this verdict.

The moment really started just before they came in because everyone was packing up to go home for the day.

We were all convinced that, I mean, there had been no word from the jury at all.

And the judge, Juan Mershahn, even said, we're going home, we're going to send the jury home at

4.30, you know, they're're going to send the jury home at

4.30, you know, they're not going to have a decision today.

He left to go check on them and then he was gone for a while and we were all

like what's taking so long.

Suddenly he comes back and says actually we're not going home today there's a verdict

So it was this kind of whiplash moment that that I think added to the

Suspense and the drama of it which was already high of course but then of course you had the jury come out and he can they confirmed they had reached their verdict

got it explain to people your vantage point watching this unfold.

Sure, so I was in the overflow room of the courthouse, which is where the majority of the

press corps is situated.

There are some people in the courtroom itself, but in fact I actually prefer the overflow

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