We'll talk now about the unique legal situation that's current right now of three separate

courts placing three separate gag orders on Donald Trump with respect to the trials

in which he's a defendant. The central question when are and when should American

criminal defendants be prohibited from speaking or posting publicly about

aspects of their cases or even in some cases privately. We'll get to that or

posting about the prosecutors, the judges and their staffs. Staff member of a

judge is the target of one of these gag orders on Trump because of

something he said about a staff member witnesses or anyone else and how

different is or should it be when the defendant is a leading candidate for

office at the same time and argues that his prosecution is political and he has

his First Amendment rights of free speech to say so in various ways. With us now

is Aziz Huck, scholar of US and comparative constitutional law at the

University of Chicago. Much of his recent work concerns democratic

backsliding and the regulation of AI. Today we'll talk with him about gag orders

and also touch on the plea deal entered yesterday in the Georgia election

interference case by former Trump inner circle member attorney Sidney Powell

how threatening for Trump. How much might it also get more truth and a fuller

telling of history into the record about the big lie that the election was stolen

by Democrats. Professor Huck is also author of a forthcoming book called The

Rule of Law of Very Short Introduction and who knows if it's very short maybe

Donald Trump will even read it. Professor Huck, thanks for joining. Welcome back to

WNYC. Thanks for having me, Brian. I'm not optimistic about my readers yet. Can we

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