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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Hamas Plan for the Hostages

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Hamas is still holding an estimated 200+ people hostage. Graeme Wood, staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters With the Islamic State (Random House, 2016), talks about the group's plan for the hostages, after he obtained an apparently authentic Hamas document that outlines the group's plan.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larosho on WNIC, good morning everyone. We'll focus first today on the

0:15.8

hostages being held by Hamas. Tomorrow will be two weeks since the October 7th assault

0:21.7

in which they were taken. Probably doesn't even need to be stated, but human rights watch

0:27.2

lists hostage taking as a war crime. The numbers are in precise, but Israeli and Hamas estimates

0:34.8

are similar. As Reuters reports, it Israel says 203 Hamas says it has 200 hostages itself

0:42.5

and that 50 more are held by other armed groups in Gaza. Hamas claims more than 20 hostages

0:48.9

have been killed by Israeli air strikes, but hasn't provided any evidence of that. And

0:54.2

who are the hostages? Well Reuters quotes Israel saying they include 30 teenagers and young

1:00.1

children and 20 people over the age of 60. Reuters reports the hostages include people

1:05.6

from dozens of countries. Many of them with dual Israeli citizenship, 20 or more Americans

1:12.2

are missing, said U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Tuesday according to Reuters,

1:18.5

but he couldn't say how many of those were being held hostage. Republican Senator Jim

1:23.0

Rish told reporters on Tuesday that 10 of the hostages were Americans. Thailand revised

1:29.7

to 17. The number of its citizens being held, a Germans are among the hostages about half

1:37.3

of whom were seized at a caboot, according to local media. Argentine president Alberto Fernandez

1:43.2

said in a video call with families that 16 of his countrymen were being held. France has

1:49.1

not said exactly how many of its citizens are held in Gaza, although there are seven

1:53.2

unaccounted four after the attacks of which some they say are being held hostage. Again,

1:59.3

all this according to Reuters, a fear angle, an 18-year-old Dutch national was kidnapped

2:05.8

from Cabrotsba area and taken to Gaza, according to the Dutch government. So again, some of

2:11.8

the statements collated by Reuters' new service regarding hostages from different countries.

2:17.1

President Biden and his speech last night made hostages topic number one in the first

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