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The Oath and The Office

Trump’s Flag-Burning Ban and Dictator Dreams

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9591 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump just issued an unconstitutional order against flag burning. He’s trying to oust a Federal Reserve governor—and he declared, “A lot of people are saying maybe we’d like a dictator.” Professor Corey Brettschneider and comedian John Fugelsang show what's at stake in these attacks—free speech, checks and balances, and the survival of our democracy. They also examine California’s redistricting plan, which—despite controversy—may be one of the few defenses of democracy left in today’s political landscape.

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0:00.0

Armed soldiers on peaceful U.S. streets, mask agents kidnapping folks without warrants or cause U.S.

0:18.9

House districts openly stolen in Texas.

0:21.8

Sex traffickers protected in high places, a weaponized DOJ, and Snoop Dog doesn't like

0:28.2

cartoon lesbian relationships.

0:30.5

Welcome to the oath and the office.

0:32.7

I'm John Fugel saying this week on the pod, Trump has signed an executive order banning flag burning, despite

0:39.7

decades of Supreme Court precedents protecting flag burning. Trump has attempted to fire the Federal

0:44.8

Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. In California, Newsom and the Democrats are considering dismantling

0:50.0

an independent redistricting commission in response to the aggressive Republican gerrymanders elsewhere.

0:55.0

And in a striking remark, Comover Caligula suggested that a lot of people might like a dictator.

1:00.6

To help us unpack the unconstitutional, political, and civic stakes in all of this,

1:04.9

please welcome. Professor Corey Brechtnyder, one of the nation's foremost constitutional law scholars

1:09.2

and the author of the oath in the office.

1:11.4

Professor, welcome back.

1:13.3

Thanks so much, John.

1:14.4

I mean, what a week.

1:15.2

We'll cover a lot, as you said, the flag-burning executive order, essentially trying to revoke free speech, although he did it in a bizarre way.

1:23.8

We'll talk about that.

1:24.7

It has all sorts of complications.

1:26.7

The fight about gerrymandering, all of these things, you know, it lead us to a moment where we're going to feel confused. But I think one of the best defenses of democracy is just to clarify what's at stake, to think clearly about it, to have some humor. And that's what this podcast is all about. So what a pleasure to have this

1:46.1

conversation with you. Well, I'm glad you think it's a pleasure because the Constitution is once

1:50.6

again being tested on multiple fronts. Let's begin with the silliest, which could be the scariest,

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