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I just feel like we're living through an experiment,

we're living out an experiment that has already failed so badly.

And nobody at the levers seems interested in slowing things down.

It's only being accelerated.

And so I just don't trust the track that we're on.

Like, I don't, I mean, I'm horrified by the track that we're on.

Music we're on. Like, I don't, I mean, I'm horrified by the track that we're on. I'm John Favro, and you just heard from today's guest, director Ari Aster. So Ari stopped by

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