Trump's Crazy Holy Week
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
A government official claims God teleported him to a Waffle House, and somehow that is not the strangest part of this conversation. Esau is joined by producer Mike and Stephen Harris to discuss Holy Week at the White House, where the language of resurrection, sacrifice, and salvation was tangled up with politics, power, and some very questionable comparisons. They also wrestle with how Christians can believe in the miraculous without losing their grip on wisdom, and why performative faith keeps missing the point of the gospel. Finally, Esau and Stephen disagree about the casting of Paapa Essiedu as Snape in the new Harry Potter series, raising questions about storytelling, representation, and when creative changes actually make a story worse.
0:00 - Theme Song
1:55 - Teleporting to Waffle House!
11:38 - Comparing Trump to Christ
15:23 - Trump's Easter Tweet
20:21 - God and the State
28:42 - Sponsor - Tyndale - On The BEMA Podcast, Marty Solomon dives deep into the Bible. Learn more at https://navpress.com
30:05 - Saul and Performative Christianity
38:42 - HBO Cast a Black Actor as Snape?
55:55 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everybody, welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast. |
| 0:09.1 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:10.7 | Today we're joined by producer Mike. |
| 0:12.4 | Hey, Esau. |
| 0:13.1 | Have you survived Easter week? |
| 0:14.5 | I survived Easter week. |
| 0:15.6 | I'm going to introduce it. |
| 0:17.5 | You can't ask me about Easter before I introduce our other guests. |
| 0:20.5 | Yes. |
| 0:39.6 | Today we have a Holy Post-Esa-McChaly podcast rookie Stephen Harris. He's a teaching elder at his church and he's doing a PhD. That's fancy, isn't it? At PhD. And at Harvard. At Harvard. I think you are our first Harvard PhD. It's a PhD in African, no, American religious history. We got to make you get this right. Yeah. American religious history in African-American |
| 0:43.6 | studies. So do you think that Harvey would say you've arrived or that you've fallen by coming |
| 0:49.3 | on the East on the East American podcast? I think, one, I wish I was a teaching elder in a church at this point, but I'm not. |
| 0:56.4 | But I think Harvard would say that I'm doing what I should do, which is be an ongoing and |
| 1:02.0 | broad conversation. Oh. And so ongoing and broad conversations. |
| 1:06.2 | Here's the thing, but those of you who are looking at looking at this on YouTube, you can kind of see the books. |
| 1:11.9 | That's a well, rare brother. |
| 1:13.4 | But here's the scope I'm going to show to you, though you can't see it. |
| 1:17.7 | On one side, he has the biography of Frederick Douglass that is in the screenshot. |
| 1:21.9 | I also then see the Cross of Christ by John Stott on the other side. |
| 1:25.8 | So you get some Frederick Douglass. |
| 1:27.4 | I see some Cornel West and some John. This is the other side. So you get some Frederick Douglass. I see some |
| 1:27.8 | Cornel West and some John. This is this is this is the brother who reads across discipline. I got a question for him. Yeah. Are there any Issa Macaulay books on those? Oh yeah. It's a reading while black is up there. Okay. All right. It's just so small. It doesn't quite send out like those other |
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