It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and MS NBC analyst Glenn Kirchner. In the final stages of his New York civil fraud trial, Donald Trump blew up at Judge

Engeron. Here's Glenn with the details. So friends you may have seen the

reporting about how Donald Trump went off on Judge Arthur and Goron, the judge

presiding over Donald Trump's fraud trial in New York, during

closing arguments.

How did we get there where Donald Trump was permitted to speak in closing arguments because he was

represented by counsel and ordinarily the rules say that if you're represented by

counsel you are not permitted to speak personally,

to cross-examine witnesses, to make closing arguments because you have opted

to be represented by counsel throughout the proceedings.

Let's start with how we got there where Donald Trump was permitted to talk

during closing arguments in his civil fraud case and then let's

look at what Donald Trump said. But to talk about how we got there I want to read

the email traffic, some of it between Judge

and Gouron and one of Donald Trump's lawyers, Chris Kies, and this email traffic is equal parts amusing and appalling. So let's

start with an email from Judge and Goron to Donald Trump's lawyers

after they informed the judge that Donald Trump wanted to make part of his own

closing argument. This from the judge. In my sole discretion, I will

consent to let Mr. Trump make a closing argument if and only if through counsel by January 9 and by himself personally on the record

just before he speaks he Trump agrees to limit his subjects to what is permissible in a counsel's closing argument.

That is, commentary on the relevant material facts that are in evidence and application of the relevant

law to those facts. He may not seek to introduce new evidence. He may not testify. He may not comment on irrelevant matters. In

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