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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trump Ramps Up Retribution

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Why is President Trump’s recent Truth Social post directed at Attorney General Pam Bondi so dangerous? In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the president’s post urging AG Bondi to prosecute political rivals and what it reveals about Trump’s attitude toward his opponents.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down Charlie Kirk’s assassination, from the investigation and charges that followed to the political aftermath, and the First Amendment controversies that have arisen since. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here. Joyce Vance and I are out with the latest episode of The Insider

0:06.0

podcast. Today we discuss President Trump's ouster of the Eastern District of Virginia's

0:11.4

U.S. Attorney-U.S. Attorney-U.S.E. Burtt and his Truth Social Post urging Attorney

0:15.6

General Pam Bondi to prosecute political rivals. Then we break down the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the investigation and charges that followed,

0:24.3

the political aftermath, and the First Amendment controversies that have arisen since.

0:28.9

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed, or click the link in the show

0:34.2

notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:37.3

Stay tuned, listeners.

0:38.6

Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:41.3

Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.

0:46.9

Head to cafe.com slash insider or staytuned.substack.com.

0:52.6

Now, on to the show.

0:58.2

So I will say, trying to say this without hyperbole, that of all the things Donald Trump has

1:03.7

done and posted and said in the second term, and there are a lot of such things that are, I think,

1:10.3

problematic and undermining of the rule of, and there are a lot of such things that are, I think, problematic and

1:12.1

undermining of the rule of law and law and order. But this combination of firing a guy who

1:18.3

is your own appointee who has no reason to be thought of, although Trump came up with some

1:23.9

reasons, no reason to be thought of as somebody from Democratic circles,

1:34.9

Republican appointee, saying, if you're not going to indict my enemies, you're fired, and I'm going to find somebody who will do that, combined with this post that I'll read part of in a moment,

1:41.8

I think is the most dangerous thing that Donald Trump has done,

1:45.9

and auger is the most dangerous part of his presidency coming up.

1:50.8

I've been thinking a lot about how we talk about this and express what you've just said.

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