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Trump Orders Venezuelan Boats Destroyed in the Caribbean

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Is the President authorized to blow up boats and kill suspected drug smugglers? Beth speaks with Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) about Trump's use of military force to strike vessels in the Caribbean Sea without due process, trials, or congressional authorization. The Senator explains why these extrajudicial killings violate constitutional war powers and put America at greater risk internationally. Why aren't Republicans checking executive overreach? Senator Van Hollen describes how the GOP has become a "rubber stamp" for Trump, abandoning its constitutional duty to provide checks and balances. From dismantling congressional war powers to remaining silent on due process violations, he explores what it means when an entire party contracts out its judgment to one person. What levers does Congress actually have right now? As the government funding deadline approaches, Van Hollen discusses the Democratic strategy of "creative confrontation" - from showing up at ICE detention centers to challenging book bans at the Naval Academy. He explains why he won't give Trump a "blank check" even from the minority, and what safeguards against illegal withholding of funds could look like in any budget deal. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Beth Silvers. You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:16.8

Sarah is out with Common Ground Pilgrimages.

0:18.8

She'll be back next week.

0:19.9

Today, I'm here to talk with you and with Senator Chris Van Holland of Maryland about the president's decision to use military force to strike boats suspected of drug smuggling in the Caribbean Sea.

0:31.2

I'd like to start by reading a paragraph to you from the ICE website. Narcotics smuggling is a global crime with local impacts.

0:40.9

Illegal drugs, such as fentanyl and synthetic opioids, cocaine and methamphetamine,

0:46.0

largely come from other countries. Cartels and other criminal organizations employ complex

0:51.5

schemes to evade detection and smuggle these deadly drugs into the United States.

0:56.4

From their local networks, distribute and sell drugs in our cities and on our streets.

1:00.5

They end up in our communities and in our loved ones' hands, often with devastating effects.

1:05.3

The criminals who commit these crimes do it for one reason to make money.

1:10.2

I agree with all of that. Narcotic smuggling is a massive

1:13.4

problem. Most illegal drugs come into the United States through our border with Mexico.

1:18.9

Local networks sell drugs and the effects are devastating. And money, pure, unabashed, morally

1:25.4

bankrupt greed is the cause. It is awful. It is also different from terrorism.

1:33.7

Under the United States Code, terrorism consists of activities that involve an act dangerous to human life or potential destruction of critical infrastructure or any key resources that violates criminal

1:45.2

laws in the U.S. or any state or subdivision and is intended to intimidate or coerce the civilian

1:51.6

population or influence a government or affect a government by mass destruction, assassination,

1:57.9

or kidnapping. Drug trafficking is a criminal economic undertaking. Terrorism is a

2:04.5

criminal ideological undertaking. They are different and they are treated differently under the law.

2:10.9

If a person is charged with drug trafficking in the United States and convicted, the sentence for that

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