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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Trump on the world stage – Deal maker or faker?

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Podmasters

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump claims a record of peace agreements spanning from Asia to the Americas. Do these claims hold up?  What can we learn about Trump’s efforts to resolve conflicts, and can his deals hold and achieve lasting peace? And what does his transactional approach mean for global security and America’s role in the world? Emma Beals talks to Richard Haass, former advisor to both Bush administrations and President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, and Samir Puri, director of the Global Governance and Security Centre at Chatham House. • This episode of This Is Not A Drill is supported by Incogni the service that keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There’s a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – go to https://incogni.com/notadrill  to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Emma Beals. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:03.3

Trump missed out on this year's Nobel Peace Prize,

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despite securing a ceasefire in Gaza the night before its announcement.

1:10.1

Now he has Europe's attention in a controversial negotiation over the conflict in Ukraine.

1:15.5

But Trump claims a record of peace agreements that stretches far beyond the major headlines,

1:20.4

spanning from Asia to the Americas.

1:23.0

To quickly run through them, Trump claims to have secured peace in the Democratic Republic of Congo,

1:28.3

settled a conflict between India and Pakistan, between Ethiopia and Egypt, Serbia and Kosovo,

1:34.3

Armenia and Azerbaijan, Israel and Iran, and Thailand and Cambodia.

1:40.3

Despite the outcry at his initial 28-point plan for Ukraine, his record is more mixed across the world and bears a bit more reflection.

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