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🗓️ 21 March 2021
⏱️ 25 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another members-only beast-in-side episode of The Daily Beast, the new, |
0:04.8 | abnormal, and we thank you so much for being here. Today we have a really, really exciting guest, |
0:10.0 | one I'm particularly excited about, with David Wallace Wells. You may know David from his |
0:15.3 | incredible writing at New York Magazine, as well as his incredible book The Uninhabitable Earth. |
0:21.0 | This week he wrote an incredible story called How the West Lost COVID, and we're going to dig into |
0:25.6 | that with him. Welcome David Wallace Wells. Thank you. It's great to be here. I'd like to talk to you. |
0:31.3 | Very excited to have you on the new abnormal first time guest. Very exciting. The piece you wrote, |
0:37.8 | How the West Lost COVID is amazing, and I'm hoping that you could give us like the top line on it. |
0:44.6 | Well, there's sort of two big points. The first is that a year into this disease, |
0:49.2 | we still actually don't really understand why and how it spreads in the way that it does, |
0:55.7 | nearly to the degree that many of us think we do. Americans we spend the last year debating |
1:00.0 | masks and social distancing, and that stuff obviously does seem to have an effect. But when you |
1:04.9 | look at the global picture, it's clear that these policies don't neatly correlate with national |
1:09.7 | outcomes, and so there's just a lot of virus being the virus running by its own rules going on. |
1:16.4 | And I think we haven't really come to terms with how little we can really do, especially once the |
1:22.0 | disease sort of gets a hold in a particular community, how powerless we are to totally direct |
1:28.4 | the course of the disease. But even given that mystery and that sort of enduring uncertainty |
1:33.9 | about exactly what drives spread and what we can do to stop it, there are these really, |
1:38.8 | really clear global patterns. There are basically three groups of nations. I want to stop you |
1:44.3 | before we talk about this. And add an extremely important caveat, which I think is really important |
1:51.0 | to just go into quickly. So Alex Barenson, who is like one of the kind of worst COVID truthers, |
1:59.1 | got very excited by that quote and said, virus got a virus. You see? I'm right. And he tweeted it, |
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