TEASER: Trump Isn’t the Only Person Whose COVID Response Cost Lives
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🗓️ 22 March 2021
⏱️ 4 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | When you're about to hear as a teaser for the bonus episodes we do for Beast Inside, |
| 0:03.8 | the Daily Beast Membership Program. Today we have a really, really exciting guest, |
| 0:08.2 | what I'm particularly excited about, with David Wallace Wells. You may know David from his |
| 0:13.5 | incredible writing at New York Magazine, as well as his incredible book The Uninhabitable Earth. |
| 0:19.2 | This week he wrote an incredible story called How the West Lost COVID, and we're going to dig into |
| 0:23.7 | that with him. To hear this along with all of our past bonus episodes with guests like Corey Booker, |
| 0:28.6 | Billy Eichner and Q&As, as well as getting full access to the Daily Beast fearless journalism |
| 0:34.2 | into new abnormal dot the Daily Beast dot com. That's new abnormal dot the Daily Beast dot com. |
| 0:40.9 | Welcome David Wallace Wells. Thank you. It's great to be here. Great to talk to you. |
| 0:45.7 | Very excited to have you on the new abnormal. First time guest, very exciting. The piece you wrote |
| 0:52.2 | How the West Lost COVID is amazing. And I'm hoping that you could give us like the top line on it. |
| 0:59.1 | Well, there's sort of two big points. The first is that a year into this disease, |
| 1:04.2 | we still actually don't really understand why and how it spreads in the way that it does. |
| 1:10.1 | Nearly to the degree that many of us think we do. You know, Americans we spend the last year |
| 1:14.0 | debating masks and social distancing and that stuff obviously does seem to have an effect. |
| 1:18.8 | But when you look at the global picture, it's clear that these policies don't neatly correlate |
| 1:23.6 | with national outcomes. And so there's just a lot of virus being the virus running by its own |
| 1:29.6 | rules going on. And I think we haven't really come to terms with how little we can really do, |
| 1:35.1 | especially once the disease sort of gets a hold in a particular community, how powerless we are |
| 1:41.4 | to totally direct the course of the disease. But even given that mystery and that sort of |
| 1:46.4 | enduring uncertainty about exactly what drives spread and what we can do to stop it, |
| 1:52.0 | there are these really, really clear global patterns. They're basically three groups of nations. |
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