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Trump Goes Nuclear on Elon Musk in Oval Office Freakout!

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The Bulwark

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4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Trump publicly attacks Elon Musk during a White House press conference, accusing him of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and blaming him for turning hostile. Musk fires back online, claiming Trump owes him credit for GOP victories. The feud exposes personal grudges, ego clashes, and policy tensions, especially over electric vehicle subsidies and a controversial bill. Trump makes a chilling comparison between the Ukraine war and a playground fight, drawing widespread criticism.

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0:00.0

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Shots newsletter, which is check out at the bulwark.com. Also, White House reporter for the bulwark and some stuff happened at the White House today. Trump had a bylap, a meeting today in the Oval Office with German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz newly elected, relatively newly elected. And they talked

0:39.3

about a wide range of issues. He likes to turn these things into circuses, as we have, we've seen

0:43.7

this circus a few times by now. And there are a few things I wanted to get into with you, Andrew.

0:49.3

First was Trump for the first time really popping off against Elon Musk. And he's made a couple of bleats,

0:57.3

like, you know, that he's disappointed, but he really goes after him here. And I want to play the first

1:03.1

clip where Trump accuses Elon of something that you and me have been accused of many times,

1:09.5

having Trump derangement syndrome let's watch

1:11.9

things are happening in this room and i'll i'll tell you it's not he's not the first people leave

1:18.6

my administration and they love us and then at some point they miss it so badly and some of them embrace it and some of them actually become hostile.

1:31.3

I don't know what it is. It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it, but we have it with others too.

1:37.3

They leave and they wake up in the morning and the glamour's gone. The whole world is different. And they become hostile. I don't know what it is.

1:47.2

Someday you write a book about it, you'll let us know. I want to dial on one part that Trump,

1:53.0

I think, is an accidental insight here. But before we get to my observation, Andrew, what did you make

1:58.5

of Trump's kind of full frontal attack on Elon there in the Oval Office? Oh, man. It's such a rich text. And this is the kind of thing that's been kind of coming. We've been able to see it coming for a little while. You know, Elon has been going off against the big beautiful bill. Obviously, he's no longer in government directly working on Doge. But he had been mostly focusing his fire on congressional Republicans before. Then just in the last day or so, he has really started to turn on Trump himself, actually called Trump out as truthfully as the kind of the architect and the driving force behind this bill. It was so interesting to see Trump in this meeting because, you know, Trump, Trump has no problem with punching back. Obviously, this has been his main thing forever. But I, but there were, there was like a, I don't know, like a plaintiffness or something almost to it. Like, he almost seemed a little bit forlorn, uh, in this particular context, because I think he, he really has really liked working with Elon all this time. And they've, he, he has this like hilarious respect for Elon as a guy who knows a lot about computers, which, which Trump himself, you know, does, it's not really his bag. And so he's like, oh, you know, he's the guy who puts the computers in the cars and he can do all that stuff. And, but, but, but, you know, nevertheless, I am forced to now nuke him from orbit, uh, because he's going after me on the internet.

3:12.6

And he does, like, like, as is typical with Trump, he hits, he hits you wherever your weakest. So he hits Elon on on a few things that are basically invented, the Trump derangement syndrome,

3:17.4

and sorts of things like that.

3:19.1

But then he also goes after his actual weak spots, like the electric car subsidies.

3:25.7

And the fact that, you know,

3:31.1

he tried to corruptly, like, get his buddy installed as the head of NASA and stuff like that. So it's all getting uglier than I expected certainly faster than I expected certainly between

3:37.9

these two guys. And I don't know where it goes from here.

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