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bulwark. I'm here with my colleague Adrian Carasquillo to talk about his new huddled masses

newsletter on immigration, love in the time of self-deportation. We're in such a weird

situation right now where a lot of people who are, you know, have previously been in sort of like

a penumbral state as far as their

immigration status is concerned, are getting scooped up, getting deportation orders,

getting imprisoned by the new administration. And that's causing a lot of different issues in a lot of

different ways. Today, Adrian, your new newsletter is focusing in on one

family in particular that's been swept up in some of this stuff. Can you just talk to me a little

bit about these people and what they're facing right now? Yeah, I've been sort of fascinated with

the self-deportation concept just in general that now, you know, first they said they were

going to go for criminals and gang members.

Obviously,

we know that they've expanded beyond that and they're getting people who've lived here for a long time.

So they go after an immigrant who's from Columbia and had a deportation order from 2019.

But when he checked in with ICE every year,

there was no issue.

He signed some papers and he was out until next year until he had to return.

But now his wife, his wife is affected.

She's a U.S. citizen.

She's from California.

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