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Trump cuts Europe out of Ukraine talks

Newshour

BBC

News, Daily News

4.4984 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

European countries are left reeling after Donald Trump cuts them out of negotiations with Russia over Ukraine: we speak to Estonia's foreign minister, and hear from Kyiv on how Ukraine sees its future.

Also in the programme: unearthing a major piece of Roman history in an office basement in London; and we get the latest after a man drives a car into a crowd in Munich.

(IMAGE: Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Margus Tsahkna speaks to the media as he attends Foreign Affairs Council at the EU headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, 27 January 2025 / CREDIT: Olivier Hoslet/EPA-EFE/REX/Shutterstock)

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to NewsAfer on the BBC World Service. We're coming to you live from London. I'm James Menendez. And coming up a little later, we will have more on that developing story out of Munich. A car's been driven into a crowd, injuring nearly 30 people. Some seriously will go live to Germany in less than 15 minutes.

0:23.4

But we are going to start with what looks like a major shake-up of the Transatlantic Alliance

0:28.5

established in the wake of the Second World War.

0:31.3

A shake-up that's left European countries reeling today and scrambling to work out how to respond. And it all turns on President

0:39.6

Trump's announcement on Wednesday that negotiations with Russia to end the war in Ukraine had already

0:44.9

begun with a long phone call to Vladimir Putin and that neither Ukraine nor America's European

0:51.0

allies would have a place at the table. Speaking in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump said he hoped to end the war as soon as possible.

0:59.0

I think we're on the way to getting peace.

1:01.5

I think President Putin wants peace and President Zelenskyy wants peace, and I want peace.

1:07.6

I just want to see people stop getting killed.

1:10.0

We're very far away from that particular war, but that's a vicious war,

1:14.8

probably a million and a half soldiers killed in a short period of time.

1:18.5

I've never seen anything. I have pictures that are, you wouldn't believe it,

1:22.5

and it would be nice to end it immediately.

1:25.4

The bilateral approach to negotiations with Russia has drawn an angry response

1:29.9

from European leaders. Six countries put out a statement last night saying that Europe and

1:35.4

Ukraine must be included in talks. The German government also accused the Trump administration

1:40.5

of giving ground on things like territory and NATO membership before negotiations

1:45.9

had properly begun. Here's Britain's Defence Secretary John Healy, speaking ahead of a meeting of

1:51.2

NATO defence ministers in Brussels. My message in these discussions will be that there can be no

1:58.3

negotiation about Ukraine without Ukraine,

2:05.1

and Ukraine's voice must be at the heart of any talks.

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