Trump Complacency Disorder abounds. Not here.
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
The Matts pick apart the most astonishing events of the past 48 hours and take an objective look at what it means. They are appalled at the complacency of many in the media in reporting what is a shakedown happening in real time. And they delight in the clear-eyed articulation of this new world order as framed by Mark Carney. Other leaders? Not so much. Enjoy.
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, this podcast is sponsored by the New World magazine. We've been irritating all the right people since we launched in 2016 after the catastrophe of Brexit. |
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| 1:16.7 | today. Now, enjoy the rest of the podcast. |
| 1:26.7 | Hello and happy Thursday. |
| 1:29.1 | Happy Thursday, one and all. |
| 1:31.1 | Matt, I was scrambling around trying to think, what could we talk about this week? |
| 1:35.7 | Because it's been so, so quiet on the international context. |
| 1:38.5 | It's one of those quiet weeks, isn't it? |
| 1:41.1 | Where when you've got a title like The New World, you think, |
| 1:44.0 | did we make the right decision, you think, did we |
| 1:45.3 | make the right decision, you know? Should we have gone for auto trader? Yeah, I mean, it's been |
| 1:52.1 | incredible. And we should say, I suppose, just by way of preamble that we're recording this |
| 1:58.1 | on Thursday morning, simply to say that by the time you listen to this, |
| 2:03.1 | things probably will have moved on a bit because they've been moving on, you know, |
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