Trump Claimed Iran Had No Air Defenses. Then They Shot Down US Jets.
Bulwark Takes
The Bulwark
4.7 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 4 April 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell give their takes on the Trump White House calling an early “lid” during an escalating war with Iran. As Trump claims the U.S. military is “unstoppable," American fighter jets were shot down and a service member is missing. Sarah also explains that swing voters are turning against Trump, feeling misled as the war drags on and prices rise. They also discuss Trump’s repeated “48-hour” threats, rising oil costs, and the growing gap between his rhetoric and reality.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hey, call my wife. |
| 0:03.1 | Calling UK Wildlife. |
| 0:04.7 | No, call my wife. |
| 0:07.1 | Here's a cheese knife, Lester. |
| 0:09.2 | Voice assistants not working for you. |
| 0:11.3 | With BlackRock Investment Trust's hands-on investing, long-term approach to growth and regular dividends, you have a lot working for you. |
| 0:18.1 | I live in Kent. |
| 0:19.6 | Get to know, BlackRock Investment Trusts at blackrock.com. You have a lot working for you. I live in Kent. Get to know BlackRock Investment Trusts at |
| 0:22.0 | blackrock.com. You have a lot working for you. Capital at risk. Marketing material. BlackRock |
| 0:26.5 | Investment Management UK Limited, authorized and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. |
| 0:30.2 | Hey everybody, Tim Miller from the Bullwark here with my buddy publisher of the Bullwarks, |
| 0:34.4 | Sir Longwell. It is Saturday morning, and you'll be surprised to learn that |
| 0:40.1 | the White House is called the lid on the day already. No more news coming out of the White House as |
| 0:45.0 | of 11 o'clock on Saturday morning. The lid is really, aren't familiar with that phrase. That means |
| 0:50.0 | they won't have any other press announcements. The press secretary won't talk. Donald Trump won't do |
| 0:53.4 | anything else the rest of the day. We won't hear anything from the White House. This is kind of early lid given the fact that we're in war with Iran. So we have some news on that front I want to talk about. But Sarah, how do you think things are going there in the White House? Well, we just dropped the new Focus Group episode this week. And I don't know if you've checked it out yet, but we did swing voters about Iran. |
| 1:14.6 | But we specifically, you know, we ask every single focus group the same opening question. |
| 1:19.0 | How do you think things are going in the country? |
| 1:21.1 | Let me tell you, there's been a real turn in the voters between 2025 and today. |
| 1:27.0 | Because the voters right now are like, things are bad. They |
| 1:30.4 | basically couldn't be worse. I feel like I've been lied to. With very few exceptions, the war in Iran |
| 1:37.7 | is not popular with these Biden to Trump voters. And so I think that the reason that Trump called a lid is that this is not an issue. They'd like to |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bulwark, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The Bulwark and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.