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🗓️ 8 August 2025
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California has become a testing ground for Trump's police state ambitions. In Los Angeles and across the country, he’s merging the military and the police into one entity, with its guns aimed inward.
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2:04.0 | On this subscriber-only episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about President |
2:10.0 | Trump's immigration crackdown, specifically as it relates to two ongoing cases in California. |
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