McMahon v. New York
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.6 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Don't be sad, little Johnny, Trump just took the Department of Education to live on a big farm with so much space to run around and play in, and all the treats the Department of Education could ever dream of. The Department of Education will miss you, too, Johnny, but we promise she's so much happier now.
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| 0:53.2 | On this episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about McMahon v. New York, |
| 1:00.0 | a recent case about the separation of powers in the dismantling of the Department of Education. |
| 1:05.0 | In March, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon announced the firing of 1,300 staff members in what |
| 1:12.7 | appeared to be the first step towards carrying out an executive order from President Trump |
| 1:16.9 | in which he called for the closure of the department. Nineteen states, along with several |
| 1:22.2 | school districts and teachers' unions, sued the federal government, claiming the firings violated federal laws and the |
| 1:28.9 | Constitution. The lower court ordered the employees to be reinstated. But the Trump administration |
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