Trump backs Ukraine – What does this mean for Zelenskyy and Putin?

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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In a dramatic shift over the war in Ukraine, Trump took to Truth Social this week to declare his belief that Ukraine can win back its territories. Will Trump’s change in stance last, and will the shift in rhetoric lead to a change in policy from the White House? To discuss a dramatic week at the UN General Assembly meeting and the latest from the front lines in Eastern Ukraine, Oz Katerji is joined in Kyiv by security analyst Jimmy Rushton. Read Jimmy Rushton’s report on Ukraine’s defence of its front lines in New Lines Magazine here. • This episode of This Is Not A Drill is supported by Incogni the service that keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There’s a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – go to https://incogni.com/notadrill to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:34.9	Mr. President, just tell us how significant is this post?
0:38.3	It's a big shift by President Trump.
0:40.3	This post of Trump, it's a big shift.
0:43.3	It's a big shift.
0:44.3	It's a big shift.
0:45.3	It's very positive.
0:46.3	Thank you so much.
0:47.3	What about economic penalties?
0:48.3	In a dramatic shift in rhetoric over the war in Ukraine, Donald Trump took to truth social this week to declare
0:55.4	his belief that Ukraine can win back its territories. Will Trump's apparent change in stance last?
1:03.1	And will a change in rhetoric result in a change in policy from the White House?
1:09.3	I'm Oz Katsy and this is Not a drill.
1:36.5	In a post-to-truth social on Tuesday, Trump gave perhaps his strongest statement of support for Ukraine yet, writing,
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