Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez at cover politics.

I'm Stephen Fowler. I also cover politics. And I'm Domenico Montanaro, senior political editor and correspondent.

Today on the podcast, we're going to talk about election results from Indiana and Ohio and what voters are telling us about how they are feeling about Trump and the economy.

Stephen, I want to start with Indiana.

Last week on the podcast, we talked about how President Trump was trying to punish state senators

who voted against redrawing the state's congressional districts by backing primary challengers for them.

Can you tell us what happened in those races?

By and large, those incumbents were punished. There were seven incumbent state senators on the

ballot. Five of them handily lost. One of them narrowly survived. There's a race that is too

close to call where the two candidates are

separated by about three votes. So if you're looking at this in the big picture, Donald Trump,

big winner, big success. If you're looking at what it means for the Indiana State Senate,

fundamentally those candidates don't really have much of a different perspective on policy than the

ones who were ousted, but save the question of redistricting and what Trump says.

I mean, were voters simply just punishing these lawmakers who decided not to redistrict?

Or do you think something else was going on here?

It is impossible to know in the thousands of people that voted each of these primary races,

whether it was strictly punishment or about something else. I mean, the millions of dollars of

TV ads that were spent weren't explicitly saying, this guy did not vote for redistricting that's why you should vote me in it's the typical primary fair of

who's the most conservative and who's going to do the best to stop the woke

agenda in deep red Indiana and so on and so forth so it's it's a little bit of

a philosophical question that I'm not sure you can have the answer.

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