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🗓️ 9 October 2025
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Federal judges are proving, over and over again, that the pen (the judicial pen) is mightier than the sword.
Glenn discusses the temporary restraining order issued by Judge Karin Immergut, a Trump appointee, prohibiting Trump from federalizing the Oregon National Guard and sending them into Portland. And, when Trump tried to violate the court's order by sending the California National Guard or the Texas National Guard to Portland, Judge Immergut issued a second restraining order, in the middle of the night, prohibiting those deployments as well.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. |
| 0:15.3 | A judge in Portland has prohibited Donald Trump from federalizing the Oregon National Guard. |
| 0:21.8 | Glenn has the story next on Justice Matters. |
| 0:28.3 | Hey, I'm John Fuglesing. Do you ever watch these Christian nationalists and right-wing |
| 0:32.8 | fundamentalists on TV and think, Jesus Christ, these people are the opposite of Jesus Christ. You know, |
| 0:39.5 | Christianity was supposed to be about love and service, but millions of Americans have grown up to |
| 0:44.0 | find their nice religions been hijacked by this mean authoritarian, tax-free click. I wrote a book |
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| 1:11.8 | On all the issues that divide us, using actual verses from that book they claim to follow, |
| 1:16.7 | they've got a First Amendment right to twist the Bible to their liking. |
| 1:19.8 | You've got a First Amendment right to call them out for it, and you'll be surprised at how good it feels. |
| 1:32.2 | Hey all. |
| 1:33.3 | Glenn Kirshner here. |
| 1:36.2 | So friends, here he goes again. |
| 1:41.6 | Donald Trump tried to grab Oregon by the National Guard, |
| 1:46.2 | tried to federalize Oregon State National Guard troops and send them into the streets of Portland, claiming that Portland is war ravaged. |
| 1:54.5 | That's a claim that was roundly rejected by a Trump-appointed judge, Karen Emmergut, who, after a hearing on the |
| 2:04.5 | matter, found, ruled, concluded that Donald Trump's factual assertions are untethered to the |
| 2:14.2 | facts. |
| 2:15.7 | And Judge Imbergut issued an emergency temporary restraining order, a TRO, which is now in place |
| 2:22.4 | for 14 days prohibiting Donald Trump from federalizing the Oregon National Guard and sending them |
| 2:30.2 | in to Portland. And within hours, what did Donald Trump and his flunkies do? They tried to |
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