Trump and Ukraine talks: What comes next? – This Is Not a Drill crossover edition

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🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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In a special crossover edition from our partner podcast, This is Not a Drill, Oz Katerji is joined by Keir Giles, author and Russia expert at Chatham House, to discuss the fallout from Trump’s meetings with Putin, Zelenskyy and a host of European leaders. After a frantic week of international diplomacy, what is the prospect of an end to Russia’s war on Ukraine? We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit. • Support This is Not a Drill on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this: https://www.patreon.com/thisisnotadrill • Support The Bunker on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill and the Bunker are Podmasters productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:36.8	Hello, Andrew Harrison here. This week's round of summit between Trump, Putin, Zelensky and European leaders
1:42.7	has been nerve-wracking for those who support
1:44.8	Ukrainian freedom and humiliating for American patriots as Putin appeared to play Trump like a cheap violin.
1:51.6	For the best analysis, here's a crossover edition with our partner podcast. This is Not a Drill,
1:56.6	with Ukraine correspondent Oz Kazaji. If you want more top-level geopolitical analysis,
2:01.7	there's a new edition of This Is Not a Drill every Thursday.
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2:09.9	After an intense weekend of international diplomacy,
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