Arguing with a Reform voter? – Paul Mason has the ideas you need

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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“Britain’s heading for civil war.” “Immigration’s out of control.” “We’re stuck with two-tier woke policing.” How do you argue back when relatives, friends or colleagues start parroting Reform’s inflammatory half-truths? And when they’re encouraged by a compliant media and radicalised pundits? Campaigning journalist Paul Mason wrote How To Stop Fascism. He tells Andrew Harrison how to tell a persuadable Farage fan from an irredeemable racist, how to debate with them, and why progressives no longer have the luxury of sticking to their factions. • Buy How To Stop Fascism through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Support us on Patreon for early episodes and more. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker to get your £100 sponsored credit. • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Simon Williams. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Art by Jim Parrett. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This edition of The Bunker is sponsored by Naked Wines. I'm Seth Tevall.
0:04.8	And I'm Zoe Grunewold.
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0:30.6	so pretty good on things Portuguese, but non-existent on those other things. How about you, Zay?
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1:51.3	Hello and welcome back to The Bunker, your daily dose of news without the nonsense.
1:52.1	I'm Andrew Harrison.
1:56.3	Remember, The Bunker is here thanks to the support of listeners like you via Patreon.
1:58.4	Unlike certain other podcasts, we could name.
2:03.7	We do not have major media backing, so we depend on your contributions, as well as advertising, to fund our team.
2:06.2	So if you like the pod, please do think about supporting it.
2:08.4	Just follow the Patreon link in the show notes.
2:13.1	Today, sometimes it feels like Reform, UK, or unstoppable.
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