Trump and his Predecessors with Kate Andersen Brower
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🗓️ 20 May 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
There may not be many laws governing how former presidents should interact with the current commander-in-chief, or with each other, or how the sitting president should treat his or her predecessors. But over time, we have developed a body of norms about how to do so appropriately. Donald Trump has, to put it mildly, changed expectations about the relationships that presidents past and present have with each other. David Priess recently sat down in the virtual jungle studio to chat with Kate Andersen Brower, author of "Team of Five: The Presidents Club in the Age of Trump," in which she describes these dynamics among the few people to know what it is actually like to be president. They talked about her interview with Donald Trump to get at his feelings toward his predecessors, the unwritten rules of the Presidents Club and about what his post-presidency might look like.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | And you know, I get into the relationship between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson and you |
| 0:39.6 | know, they're long separation where they weren't talking for quite a long time and then suddenly |
| 0:45.3 | they became friends after really having a terrible relationship with each other. |
| 0:51.2 | And I did ask President Trump, I asked him if he thinks he could ever be friends with |
| 0:56.8 | any former president in the same way that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson became friends |
| 1:01.6 | before they died and he said anything's possible. |
| 1:05.6 | So I just think it's interesting to see if these fences can eventually be mended and in my |
| 1:12.0 | I think in Donald Trump's case that's not going to happen just because there's been so |
| 1:17.0 | much of a truel. |
| 1:18.9 | I'm David Prius and this is the LawFair podcast May 20, 2020. |
| 1:25.5 | There may not be many laws governing how former presidents should interact with the current |
| 1:30.1 | commander in chief or with each other or how the sitting president should treat his or |
| 1:35.1 | her predecessors. |
| 1:36.9 | But over time, we have developed a body of norms about how to do so appropriately. |
| 1:43.3 | Donald Trump has to put it mildly changed expectations about the relationships that |
| 1:48.6 | presidents, past and present have with each other. |
| 1:53.2 | I recently sat down in the virtual jungle studio to chat with Kate Anderson Brower who has |
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