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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trump Admin Ramps Up Airstrikes (with Barb McQuade)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Are the U.S. airstrikes on alleged drug traffickers aboard vessels in the Caribbean and the Pacific legal? Law professor and legal analyst Barb McQuade joins Preet to discuss in this excerpt from the Insider podcast. In the full episode, Preet and Barb break down President Trump’s lawsuit against the Justice Department and an appellate court’s decision to overturn an order blocking the Trump administration from deploying National Guard in Portland, Oregon. Joyce will be back next week.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here. Joyce is off this week, so I'm joined by my friend and colleague Barb McQuaid for a new episode of The Insider podcast.

0:09.6

Barb is a former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, a law professor at the University of Michigan, co-hosts of the Sisters in Law Podcast, and a monthly columnist here at Cafe.

0:19.2

We discussed the U.S. airstrikes targeting alleged drug traffickers in the Caribbean and the Pacific,

0:24.0

President Trump's lawsuit against the Justice Department,

0:26.4

and the latest on National Guard deployments in Democratic-led cities.

0:30.3

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed,

0:33.4

or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:37.2

Stay tuned, listeners. Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:41.1

Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.

0:46.7

We're living in unreasonable times.

0:49.1

So join our community of reasonable voices.

0:52.5

Head to cafe.com slash insider or stay tuned.substack.com.

0:57.5

Now, on to the show. You picked. I let you as the guest pick what topic we would cover

1:06.1

first, the Venezuela Strikes. And we were discussing a moment before we hit the record button

1:11.3

what the volume of strikes has been. Just to remind folks, these have been preemptive,

1:17.0

military targeted strikes on boats, ships, you know, watercraft that the administration claims

1:25.7

are being manned by individuals who are engaged in the drug trade,

1:30.6

cartel drug trade, and they are authorized to engage in such strikes. We'll talk about what the

1:35.8

rationale for that is and what the basis for it is and whether it's written or not written.

1:39.8

But can we just do a little bit of a history of the strikes? And we were debating, because

1:44.0

the news keeps changing, whether it's 10 or 11 so far. I think we're recording this in the 10

1:50.2

a.m. hour on Tuesday morning. By the time this airs, it may be, maybe more. From our fantastic

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