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revolutionary Cuba sends its own army to defend its African ally,

while the United States backs a warlord whose only goal

is power.

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Hello, true spies listeners.

Welcome back to True Spies, Debrief.

Here on the debrief, we catch up with experts from the intelligence and espionage community

for a deeper look at the themes, events and insights that fascinate them, taking you behind

some of the world's most consequential, dangerous and outlandish missions. Brett Janice went to work

for the CIA in Southeast Asia in 1996.

Just a year later, a financial crisis in Thailand began to spread across the region, with ripple effects across the entire globe.

In this debrief, we speak with Brett about the CIA's role in helping the US government to understand and manage financial crises,

to get an insider's look at an aspect of espionage few outsiders know about.

And we also talk about another global crisis, one that for Brett hits close to home.

Brett, thank you for being here. I want to start by talking a little bit about you've had a really

interesting career, a really interesting career arc. You went to Harvard and after graduating,

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