True Crime Conversations: Patrick Hinds, Josh Hallmark, and Eric Carter-Landin

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Comedy, True Crime, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 13 December 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Hey Fam! We’re so excited to share this conversation between Patrick, Josh Hallmark, host of the podcasts True Crime Bullshit and Unsafe Spaces, and Eric Carter-Landin, co-founder of AdvocacyCon and host of the podcast True Consequences..

In this conversation, Patrick, Josh, and Eric chat about why they podcast, how they go into it, the distinct perspectives of being gay men covering true crime, and they share the true crime podcasts they’ve loved over the past few years. This is a great opportunity to learn about podcasts you may not have heard of and, as Patrick says, to hear three queens flame out over the existence of an America’s Next Top model tell all podcast. It’s…sassy.

Check out Josh and Eric's Stuff:
True Crime Bullshit: True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.
Unsafe Spaces: Unsafe Spaces explores the murders that corrupt and exploit the places we’re meant to feel the safest; be it our churches, the gay community, or even our own homes. Season one investigates a complex string of serial murders that occurred within the Tampa gay community between 1998 and 2006.
True Consequences: Abq NM-based, award-winning true crime podcast, with advocacy-focused cases from the Southwestern state of New Mexico and the American Desert Southwest.
AdvocacyCon: AdvocacyCon is a crime conference unlike any other. We bring together experts, non-profit organizations, families of the missing and murdered, and individuals passionate about advocating for justice. It aims to create a platform for education, connection, and collaboration in the fight for justice.

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0:00.0	Hey fam, Steve here. I'm filling in today because Patrick is a little bit sick this weekend
0:09.9	and he lost his voice. So happy to join you for this intro. Today we have a special episode.
0:15.9	It comes to us thanks to Josh Hallmark, who is spearheading a project to do a bunch of different
0:21.5	conversations between true crime podcast creators. And this one is a conversation between Patrick,
0:27.6	Josh Hallmark, like I mentioned, who hosts true crime bullshit and unsafe spaces, and Eric
0:33.5	Carter Landon, co-founder of advocacy con and host of the podcast, True Consequences.
0:39.1	We put links to all those podcasts and to AdvocacyCon in our show notes here.
0:44.5	So in this conversation, Patrick, Josh, and Eric chat about why they podcast, how they got into it,
0:50.1	the distinct perspectives of being gay men covering true crime, and they share the true crime
0:54.6	podcasts they've loved over the past few years. This is a great opportunity to learn about
0:59.4	podcasts you may not have heard of, and as Patrick says, to hear three queens flame out
1:04.3	over the existence of an America's next top model tell-all podcast. It's sassy. And like I mentioned, this is part of a whole bunch of
1:14.7	these conversations that Josh helped put together with a lot of his true crime podcast to
1:19.4	friends. Jillian has one as well that will be coming out soon. More details about that after
1:24.3	this episode in the outro. So enjoy.
1:34.4	Hey guys. Hi. So before we kick off, because I'm sure there are people who are listening to this who have not met all of us, why don't you share your origin stories? Why don't we
1:40.5	start with Eric? Yeah, well, mine is a bummer, so it's good to get that out of the way right away.
1:46.6	My brother was murdered 39 years ago, and I've been fighting for justice for him ever since.
1:52.7	And so everything I do, everything I have done, has been in honor of him and in memory of him.
1:59.4	So I started true consequences in 2019. It's been a very
2:03.1	long time since my listeners have heard from me. This will actually be the first episode in a long
2:07.3	time. So I'm excited to reintroduce myself to everybody. But from there, I started a nonprofit called
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