True Crime Conversations: Amanda Jacobson, Charlie Worroll, Josh Hallmark (Ad-free & Early)

True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

For the month of December, True Crime creators are getting together for conversations about podcasting, true crime, and the nexus between the two. We’ll discuss creating our shows, behind-the-scenes moments, fears and hopes, the cases that have gripped us, and more.

In this conversation Amanda (Wine & Crime), Charlie (Crimelines), and Josh (True Crime Bullsh**) discuss: friendships in podcasting, war stories from the road, podcast advice, feeling misunderstood, weird purchases, pop culture, and more.

Enjoy this conversation and be sure to check out the rest:

• Jessie (Love Murder), Bob (Buried), Joshua (Somewhere in the Pines)
• Javier (Pretend), Kristen (Murder, She Told), Shaun (Sins & Survivors)
• Patrick (True Crime Obsessed), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Eric (True Consequences)
• Gillian (True Crime Obsessed), Alvin (Affirmative Murder), Lanie (True Crime Cases with Lanie)
• Robin (The Trail Went Cold), Nina (Already Gone), John (Sins & Survivors)
• Aaron (Generation Why), Lucy (Wine & Crime), Kristen (Murder, She Told)
• Amanda (Wine & Crime), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Andie (Love Murder), Charlie (Crimelines)

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Transcript

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0:00.0	All right. Are we ready to do this? Yeah. Okay. Hey, everybody. I am here. I realize whenever I do cold opens, it's like the energy of a dying child. I'm just like, hi, everyone.
0:15.3	The energy of me calling 911 from the toilet.
0:19.2	Yes.
0:21.0	Bring that energy.
0:23.6	Listless with nothing left to give.
0:26.5	Hey everybody.
0:27.5	Bottom of the barrel.
0:30.3	Hey everybody.
0:33.6	Hey everybody.
0:35.0	I'm Josh Hallmark and I'm here with Charlie Worrell from Crime Lines and Amanda Jacobson from Wine and Crime. Hey, all.
0:45.2	Hi.
0:46.7	Tell them what you did.
0:49.0	It's almost as though we did this just two days ago.
0:52.2	Oh my God, wait.
0:54.3	Hold on.
0:55.1	So good to see you guys again so soon.
0:57.9	It's almost as though I was late for this call because I had diarrhea just two days ago and then again today.
1:04.4	Mm-hmm.
1:05.4	And it's almost like we've had this entire conversation two days ago because I pressed pause on recording while
1:11.8	you were having diarrhea and never pressed record again. It's my fault, apparently, and I will
1:18.5	accept that. And, you know, I feel like this is divine, you know, like the first, the first episode
1:25.7	that we fully recorded is like the first pancake.
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