I know that I know that his presence just changes everything and I want everyone

to experience that and know that they don't have to wait for Sunday. You know the same power that raised

Christ from the dead is alive in us. So we actually live in the power of this

promise every moment of every day.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. Today's guests are two women who have seen God's presence woven into the

fabric of their lives and realize he's closer to us in ways we might have never

imagined. Worship leader, pastor, and writer Darlene Sheck and Bible teacher

Margaret Feinberg. First up, Darlene Sheck grew up in Australia and found commercial

success in music at age 10, but decided to leave a career as an entertainer to seek a life

in worship and ministry. In 1993 during a stressful period of her life

Darlene found herself at her piano prayerfully singing and glory to God.

The words that flowed from her heart became one of the most recognized praise and worship songs of the modern era, shout to the Lord.

Now she and her husband passed her together at Hope Unlimited Church.

My name is Darlene Check. I am a wife and a mom and a grandma.

My husband Mark and I passed her a church on the Central Coast of New South Wales in Australia called Hope Unlimited Church

which we love doing. You know I'm also a writer of songs and books and all sorts of things. I grew up in Queensland in Australia,

the eldest of four kids. My grandparents actually on my dad's side very strong Christian people and you know I

really think I'm here today because of their prayers you know every morning

they prayed for us by name. There were earlier days

where I remember succinctly being in church, being around worship, being around

the presence of God and the people of God.

And I know something was really birthed in my heart from a young age, but I never knew really

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