This episode is brought to you by Tailwind Nutrition, you know it's even though it's winter

you still need to hydrate, don't you know that's that's something that can fool you

because in the heat you know you need to start drinking but you're still require nutrients

even in the cold and in the in the really cold if you continue to shake that bottle

it won't freeze on you.

Is that if you run fast enough Scott?

We have Travis Macy on the lone line again he's a coach and a great runner that we've

met and he has a lot of good golden nuggets of information in his brain.

We welcome him back to Tailwind tip of the trail of the trail.

Let's say it like we own it Scott, the tailwind tip of the trail.

Welcome Travis.

Yeah I think thanks a lot always good to be here with you and the listeners.

Hey you told us recently that you learned something what did you learn recently?

Well you know what I learned recently is some information about my own exercise metabolism.

So what I did is I ran on a treadmill.

My test was about 45 minutes long I was breathing into a machine that tested the gases that

I expelled out of my mouth and what's amazing is this machine based on the composition

of the gases that you exhale it can tell you what you're burning for fuel at that point

and most importantly you know at this given point of this test am I burning carbohydrate

am I burning fat you know what is the ratio of those two fuel sources.

And the way this this test works you know again you're you're kind of running at an increasing

effort and for most people you start out pretty easy and you're burning almost all fat

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