All right listeners welcome to episode 69 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Matt Sidman your podcast co-hosts

I'm here with my great friend Sam other fellow. Hey Sam. Hi Matt what's going on? Oh not much

I am as usual so very excited to present this episode to our listeners. It's a good one

I think a lot of people have been waiting for it. Yes, this one has been in the works for a while

Certain listeners might be particularly excited for the topic of this one

It's a discussion about Philip Reef and really two of his books

The focus is a little more on the triumph of the therapeutic

But you can't really talk about that book without talking about his first one

Which was Freud the mind of the moralist

Yeah, so I don't want to give too much away of what we talk about in the discussion

But I did think that given that it is a little complicated and that it is some of it the conversation is in a specifically sort of

Freudian idiom

That I would lay out a little bit of what is in each of these books very very briefly

So that our listeners are on board when we get into the discussion

That first book the mind of the moralist which came out in 1959

Is really Reef's book on Freud and he really just kind of kicks the tires of

Psychoanalytic theory from his perspective as we'll talk about in the conversation

It was co-written with his wife at the time Susan Sontag

But the Freud that emerges in that book is this much more moralistic

Sort of version of Freud than the one that we might have sort of inherited from the history of psychoanalysis

In America and he sees Freud not as a sort of libertine figure who is actively trying to unleash

the sexual and liberatory impulses of the human psyche

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