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secure. This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batch with my colleague, Henry Sikolsky, the Executive

Director of Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center. That was then, 80 years ago, Trinity Test,

and the decision makers ever since not resolving the conflict. Is it a weapon? Is it not a weapon? Do we use it? Do we not use it?

Henry has another road forward that is not only fresh, but reminds us that our industrial base is

not adequate, even to a solution about atomic

weapons not being used or being used, which is non-nuclear missile systems that can be used

much more effectively without the radiation, without the destruction, without the black

snow, without the curse for all time, with plutonium poisoning.

Henry, reintroduced non-nuclear solutions, even though we don't have an industrial base that can produce them yet.

Well, the Russians are trying to help us out.

They keep bragging about a missile called the Orchnik.

I like saying that has a very Russian twist to it.

This missile has been used once against a target in Ukraine.

It is nearly an intercontinental ballistic missile.

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