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Treating Data as Property in Surveillance Cases

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2015

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

If courts treat data as property under the Fourth Amendment, rulings on surveillance may afford Americans greater privacy. Jim Harper explains.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, May 14, 2015, and Caleb Brown in its decision

0:07.4

rejecting elements of NSA spying on Americans, the Second Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals treated data as property.

0:14.0

That may have great implications for the future of privacy and legal decisions governing surveillance.

0:20.0

Jim Harper is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, he discusses the court's opinion.

0:24.2

In the first case on NSA spying

0:26.6

to reach an appellate decision, the Second Circuit Court

0:30.9

of Appeals in New York ruled that Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act

0:37.0

did not provide the authority for mass collection of Americans telephone calling information. It's a very important

0:44.6

ruling and it harbingers well for Americans privacy, especially based on the way the court talked about these issues.

0:55.2

How did they treat data in this decision?

0:58.4

The court of course didn't say explicitly how it's going to work with data, but there are pieces of the decision that I think are very important.

1:06.0

One in its discussion of standing, the question whether the ACLU had standing to sue about collection of data.

1:12.0

The court emphasized that the seizure of data was an important

1:16.8

aspect. It's not just when data is searched that someone might suffer a Fourth Amendment

1:21.2

violation, but the seizure of it.

1:23.0

Seesher is a word we use with respect to property.

1:26.0

Data, the court had to say, is an item of property that can be seized. In this case, the information about what calls

1:36.4

the A.C. Leo and everyone else is making is jointly held. The telecommunications companies have it in bulk, but they have it subject

1:46.2

to restrictions they placed upon themselves for our benefit. It's like we have a covenant

1:51.0

running with the data that limits what they may do with it.

1:54.8

These are property concepts and the court used the property type concept to talk about

1:58.9

the seizure of data that gave a seal you standing.

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