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🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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In this episode, Dr Radin returns to the show to talk to us about his amazing new book, The Science of Magic.
We look at
Meta-analyses with trillion-to-one odds.
Hotel poltergeists that target specific researchers.
Spoons that bend without force.
Sigils. Always, always sigils.
Radin explains why materialist skeptics have run out of arguments, how belief literally structures the universe, and why your unconscious mind might be doing magic right now.
If you liked Real Magic, this one takes the conversation even further. The dominant of wider inclusions has surely arrived.
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| 0:00.0 | And so this was a person who had died in prison and then became a ghost in that prison, |
| 0:04.3 | except that it had the habit of somebody coming to visit a living person in the prison. |
| 0:08.5 | And then Anton, the ghost, would go back to that person's house, thereby becoming the |
| 0:12.8 | traveling ghost. |
| 0:13.7 | We go to sleep around 3 o'clock in the morning. |
| 0:15.7 | I suddenly wake up and I see that my phone has turned on, which it would do if it |
| 0:19.7 | loses power because it was charging. |
| 0:21.6 | I figured, well, something electrical must have happened. |
| 0:24.6 | But then I also smelled something funny like smoke. |
| 0:27.6 | 30 seconds later, boom, another big pop sound and now I was concerned. |
| 0:32.6 | So it turned the lights on. |
| 0:33.6 | I saw the sort of black acrid smoke billing out of the T, the flat panel TV, |
| 0:39.9 | which is on the other side of the room. He opened the door, and on the other side of the hall, |
| 0:43.4 | was Michael Nomm, the one who gave his talk about Anton, the traveling ghost. And he had the same |
| 0:48.1 | thing in his place, the electrical system had gone crazy and he woke up. And the two rooms right |
| 0:54.0 | next to us. So four of us now are leery-eyed, three o'clock in the morning crazy and he woke up. And the two rooms right next to us. So four of us |
| 0:55.7 | now are leery-eyed three o'clock in the morning in the hallway. And so we couldn't find anything wrong |
| 1:01.0 | electrically. We go down to the night desk and say, something happening? No, nothing's happening. |
| 1:05.5 | So we go back up to the room. Things seem to settle down. And I turn the light off and it won't |
| 1:10.4 | turn off. So now I'm switching the light off and it won't turn off. |
| 1:11.1 | So now I'm switching the light back and forth saying, this isn't good. And then it starts flickering, it's very much like a poltergeist movie. And I'm thinking, oh, this is like a poltergeist movie. So I turn it off and it stays off. Like the moment that it occurs to me, oh, this is poltergeist like. When I opened the door and saw Michael Nam, he immediately said, it's Anton. |
| 1:31.3 | Yeah. moment that I, it occurs to me, well, this is paltrygeist like. When I opened the door and saw Michael Nam, he immediately said, it's Anton. |
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