Trauma, Grief, and Disrupting Death-Dealing Systems with Dr. Jamie Eaddy
The Allender Center Podcast
The Allender Center
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🗓️ 1 August 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
If you've ever struggled to make space for your own grief—or wondered why so many people around you seem to push through pain without tending to it—this episode offers a compelling and liberating invitation.
Host Rachael Clinton Chen and guest co-host Wendell Moss sit down with Dr. Jamie Eaddy. Dr. Jamie is a thanatologist, which is a professional who studies and provides support related to death, dying, bereavement, and grief. She is also a grief and death doula, a healer, and the founder of The Ratchet Grief Project®. Jamie's work centers especially on the Black community and other marginalized groups whose grief is often overlooked or dismissed. She invites us to see grief not as a private burden or spiritual failing, but as a sacred, communal, and even political process.
Together, they name the systems that make it hard for us to grieve—particularly in communities shaped by Christian triumphalism, generational survival strategies, systemic racism, and the pressure to "keep going" at all costs.
Dr. Jamie challenges death-dealing theologies that shame us for being human and normalize suffering as something deserved or redemptive. Instead, she offers a vision of a God who grows with us, who is expansive, and who longs for us to be fully alive.
This episode is a call to reclaim grief as part of what it means to be human—and to reimagine our faith, our communities, and our systems to reflect that truth. If you're longing for permission to pause, to feel, and to be held in the midst of loss, we hope this conversation will meet you right where you are.
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| 0:00.0 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. |
| 0:06.7 | I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
| 0:08.7 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen. |
| 0:10.5 | We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
| 0:14.7 | And restoration for the heart. |
| 0:17.2 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 0:18.5 | Let's get this conversation started. |
| 0:30.6 | Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started. Good people with good bodies. It feels these days as though death is all around us. |
| 0:36.8 | And there is genuinely so much to grieve collectively |
| 0:40.1 | and personally I was trying to put together a list in my head last night of just the kind of |
| 0:45.7 | very public natural disasters that have happened in 2025 thus far, let alone a lot of the debt-dealing policies coming out of this administration |
| 0:56.3 | and all those kind of personal and ongoing ways in which were confronted with heartache, |
| 1:03.8 | pain, and trauma. And yet it feels like, one, we're overwhelmed. Two, we're so resistant to entering grief, to entering |
| 1:14.4 | lament, to even knowing how to do that. And here at the Allender Center, we talk a lot about the |
| 1:21.2 | reality of death, the reality of grief as an important part of healing from trauma. But we're up against a lot. |
| 1:29.0 | So we need help. |
| 1:30.2 | And I am thrilled today to be joined by my colleague and friend, |
| 1:34.6 | soon to be Dr. Windal Moss, |
| 1:37.0 | and Dr. Jamie Eadie and her robust, holy labor |
| 1:41.3 | as a uniquely gifted healer, dreamer, educator, theologian, |
| 1:46.0 | Thonatologists, which we'll get into, and traumatologist, whose work spans a broad |
| 1:51.2 | spectrum of care and transformations. |
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