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TRIGGERnometry

"Trans Women Are Men … Including Me" - Debbie Hayton

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantine Kissen. And this is a show

0:10.2

for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people. Our brilliant guest today

0:15.6

is a teacher, journalist and self-described opinionator, Transwoman. They've been

0:20.1

welcome to Trigonometry. Hi, nice to meet you both. It's great to meet you. Great to have you here.

0:24.5

Thank you so much for coming on. We'll get into all your problematic opinions in a second.

0:30.1

But just tell everybody a little bit about who are you, how are you where you are? What has

0:34.8

been the journey that leads you through life to be sitting here talking to us? Right, I'm a teacher.

0:39.4

I've been teaching for 25 years. I live in Birmingham. I teach in the West Midlands.

0:47.3

I probably wouldn't be sitting here though if I hadn't transitioned 10 years ago.

0:52.8

And what led you to transition? Mental health, a mental health crisis really.

0:59.6

I'd had issues with my gender, I've sometimes described it, but don't try and push me on what

1:06.7

that actually means. But I knew I had psychological issues with this from when I was about three years old.

1:12.6

But managed to, as many other people do, you manage to keep it in check, get on with life,

1:18.4

grow up, get married, have kids, get a job. But around 10 years ago, I just found it

1:27.0

increasingly difficult to carry on as I was, as a man, working as a man, living as a man.

1:32.9

I felt I should have been a woman. I actually felt I actually believed at the time I was some sort

1:38.3

of woman. So I transitioned. And you got into, certainly came to people's attention to, certainly to

1:47.2

our attention when you wore a t-shirt and helped me get this right because this is all a bit

1:54.2

mind-fieldy. You wore a t-shirt saying, trans women are men. Really glad you're the one asking

1:59.5

this question, mate. As am I? Am I right so far? You're right. I'm right so far. And then there was

2:05.3

some, you know, it got in the news and there was a big thing and then there was a disciplinary

2:10.1

action and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, why would you as a trans woman wear a t-shirt saying

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