I'm Glenn Weldon, the Pop Culture Happy Hour team is off today, so we're bringing you an episode of

NPR's It's been a minute. Host and our pal, Brittany Luce, recently spoke with our other

pal, Trey Val Anderson. They recently published a book called We See Each Other.

It's about the complicated history of trans representation in TV and Film. Here's Brittany.

If you've seen Paris is burning, you remember this iconic scene.

Shade comes from reading.

Shade is, I don't tell you you're ugly, but I don't have to tell you because you know you're

ugly.

And if you've seen pose, you can't help but quote this line.

If you walk out that door, you might as well be walking as an evangelista because I only raise winners.

And then even if you haven't seen legendary,

you have got to know this one.

Dramatics and the performance was zero.

My score today is going to be a four.

If you haven't put it together yet, today we're looking at trans representation in TV and film.

Representation has its good parts. It's got its bad parts.

When we only focus on the good, we never really contend with the

state and reality of how we are moving through the world.

My guest is Trayvon Anderson, a reporter who has covered the margins

of pop culture for over a decade. They just published a new book, We See Each

Other, A Black Trans Journey through TV and film. It's a series of essays that

weave together history, personal stories, and some of TV and films most

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